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| Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis | |
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kilian
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| Tema: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Sáb 09 Abr 2011, 23:59 | |
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" Model List:
TA03F/R TA03FS/RS TA03F Pro Kit TA03F Pro Drift Spec TA03F David Jun Kit TA03R TRF Kit TA03R/RS TRF
Basic Info:
TA03F-S and R-S has a wheelbase of 237mm TA03 Chassis width according to Tamiya is 185mm for all TA03’s
The David Jun model is in short a TA03F Pro with a bunch of hop ups. It’s basically the TRF version of the TA03F. Also, as far as I know, the David Jun model TA03F comes with a set of front C carriers that have a different amount of caster, and are specific to the David Jun model. They either are one degree or three degrees, the stock caster is two degrees. The stabilizer bars are a different stiffness, and are silver in color. Also various parts are gold anodized.
The Aramid belts are skinner and thinner then the stock TA03 belts, which are wider and thicker. The Aramid belts come in various colors, Red for TA03F-S and TA03R-S, TA03F as black, green and blue. The yellow TA03 belt is made by Tech Racing. With Aramid belts it isn’t necessary to run a belt tensionor.
Stock pulley size is 16T front and rear. The kit also includes 15T pulleys (two pulleys).
Torque control units are supplied with aluminum pulleys. TA03F kit comes with 15T and 17T pulley while the TA03R comes with 14T and 16T pulleys. Basically the torque control unit is two different sized pulleys, a 15T and a 17T, the standard 03f pulleys are both 16T, you can use these pulleys to give more torque(15T) to either the front or the back and less(17T) to the other, the unit also includes a one way shaft.
Black gears are plastic while the white (cream) gears are delrin. The cream gears have a fine tooth pattern while the Black gears are a coarse pattern. Cream gears have also been said to be quieter then their black counter parts.
The gear boxes starting with the number 5xxxx are all grey color.
Most needed parts right out of the gate:
TRF Dampers – These will provide a better ride and far greater adjustability over the stock oil or friction shocks that come with any TA03 kit. Bearings – If you TA03 comes with bushings, ditch them for the better rolling ball bearings. These will give you a smoother less friction drive train will also giving you a tad more run time, cause of the less friction.
Sway bars – Keep your TA03 level during drifting.
Other noticeable parts:
Tobee Craft Rear Spool – Locks the rear wheels together Low Mount Shock Towers – Provides extra ground clearance if needed Front Universal Joints Center One Way Shaft – Acts like 4WD when on throttle but acts like 2WD when off throttle Ball Differential(s)
Conversion Guide:
TA03F to TA03R, you will need:
- TA03R front gearbox (B Parts, 50743) -TA03R bumper tree (E Parts, 50717)
From TA03R to TA03F, you will need:
- TA03F rear gearbox (B Parts, 50699) - 2x 16T pulley or belt tension (w/15T pulley) - 50698 TA03 A Parts (motor under guard)
Miscellaneous Information:
If you’re looking to remove the tub chassis and to get the flat chassis, you will need the FRP conversion kit for the style of TA03 you have. There are a few different kits out there that are FRP conversions.
The TA03F FRP set and the TA03R FRP set are closely the same, minus the TA03R FRP set has a different top deck compared to the TA03F FRP set and that it also comes with other various parts to work with the motor gear box.
Also if you want to go to the Carbon plates you’ll need also the J part(s) which include battery stay and chassis blocks and other parts needed.
Optional: - 53306 RC TA03F FRP Chassis Set - 53358 RC TA03R FRP Chass.Conversion (2nd choice, usable for F) - 53302 RC TA03F Pro Carbon Chassis - 53261 RC Carbon Battery Plate Set - TA03F-Pro - 53267 RC TA03 Ball Differential Set
Gears and Pulleys:
The TA03TRF and 03f pro run Tamiya 0.4 pitch gears NOT standard 64 pitch although it will work u should run a Tamiya 0.4 pinions.
Black = 48p [Tamiya 0.6 Pitch] Cream = 64p [Tamiya 0.4 Pitch] Possibly based on 16T pulley combo.
Pinion Tooth 0.6 Black Gear Ratio 0.4 Cream Gear Ratio 12T 9.93:1 N/A 13T 9.16:1 N/A 14T 8.51:1 N/A 15T 7.49:1 N/A 16T 7.44:1 N/A 17T 7.00:1 N/A 18T 6.62:1 N/A 19T 6.27:1 N/A 20T 5.96:1 8.44:1 21T 5.67:1 8.01:1 22T 5.41:1 7.67:1 23T 5.18:1 7.34:1 24T 4.96:1 7.03:1 25T 4.76:1 6.75:1 26T N/A 6.49:1 27T N/A 6.25:1 28T N/A 6.03:1 29T N/A 5.82:1 30T N/A N/A
Possibly based on Cream Gears
Pinion Tooth 15T Pulley 16T Pulley 17T Pulley 20T 9.00:1 8.44:1 7.95:1 21T 8.58:1 8.04:1 7.57:1 22T 8.19:1 7.67:1 7.22:1 23T 7.83:1 7.34:1 6.91:1 24T 7.50:1 7.04:1 6.62:1 25T 7.20:1 6.75:1 6.36:1 26T 6.93:1 6.49:1 6.11:1 27T 6.67:1 6.25:1 5.89:1 28T 6.43:1 6.03:1 5.68:1 29T 6.21:1 5.82:1 5.48:1 30T 6.00:1 5.63:1 5.30:1
Chassis Parts and Upgrades:
Sway bars:
Red - soft Yellow - medium Blue - hard White - extra hard
#53276 Tamiya TA03 Fluorescent Stabilizer Comes with mounting hardware, red, yellow, and blue stabilizer bars.
Bumpers:
Front Bumper with air inlet #53304 TA03R Versions #53268 TA03F Versions
Shock towers:
The Tamiya Reinforced lower shock towers allow you to mount body shells lower and also give you the option of extra ground clearance if needed.
Part #53337 Reinforced Damper Stay Low Mount
If you run the TRF Dampers you will need to run the longer shock mount on the bottom. With this you will be able to get about 3 to 4 mm of ground clearance. If you switch to the Low mount towers your able to get about 8 to 9 mm of clearance with the same shock ends.
Turnbuckles & Camber:
Camber:
#53192 Tamiya 4WD/FWD Turnbuckle Upper Arm Set For TA02, TA02W, TA03, FF01 Chassis Cars
Toe:
#53662 TT-01 Turnbuckle Tie-Rod Set
Miscellaneous Part & Kit Numbers:
Part Number Item Description 9805542 Top Deck Pulley Plate 9805540 Gear box joint x2 58278 Lancia 037 Rally - TA03RS 58250 Peugeot 206 WRC - TA03F-S 58243 TA03R-S TRF Special Chassis 58239 Penzoil Nismo GT-R - TA03F 58227 TA03R-TRF Special Chassis 58225 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. V - TA03F 58220 Mobil 1 NSX - TA03R 58218 Toyota Corolla WRC - TA03F-S 58215 PIAA Porsche 911 - TA03R-S 58214 Mercedes CLK-GTR - TA03R 58210 Subaru Impreza WRC '97 - TA03F 58207 Avex Dome Mugen NSX - TA03R 58203 Nissan R390 GT1 - TA03R 58200 David Jun TA03F-Pro Limited 58199 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo.IV - TA03F 58193 Porsche 911 GT1 - TA03R-S 58189 Martini AlfaRomeo 155 V6 TI - TA03F 58188 Opel Calibra Cliff - TA03F 58185 Kure Nismo GT-R - TA03F 58182 Audi A4 STW - TA03F 58177 TA03F-Pro 53571 TRF Fluorine Coated Damper 53569 Clamp Type Alum Wheel Hub - 6mm 53387 TA03 R-S /F-S FRP CHASSIS CONVERSION SET 53386 TA03R-S/F-S CARBON CHASSIS SET 53364 Carbon Steering Bar 53363 TA03R CARBON CHASSIS SET 53358 TA03R FRP CHASSIS CONVERSION 53357 Aluminum Motor Plate (Blue) 53337 TAMIYA TA03 Reinforced Damper Stay (Low Mount Type) 53326 Tamiya TA03 Aluminum Steering Set. 53325 Tamiya TA03 Aluminum Knuckle Arm (1 Pair) 53316 Tamiya TA03 Aluminum Front Hub Carrier (Silver, 1 Pair) 53315 TA03R-S Carbon Reinforcing Plate. 53312 TA03 Carbon Stabilizer Support 53311 TA03R Carbon Reinforcing Plate 53310 Tamiya TA03 Universal Drive Shaft Set (1 Pair) 53309 Tamiya Titanium Suspension Shaft Set 53306 TA03F FRP Chassis Set 53305 TA03 LIGHTWEIGHT DRIVE SHAFTS (Blue) 53304 Tamiya TA03-R Urethane Bumper Set 53302 TA03F Carbon upper and lower chassis deck 53299 Tamiya TA03R Torque Control Unit 14/16T 53298 Tamiya TA03F Torque Control Unit 15/17T 53297 TA03R-S Drive Belt - Aramid Fiber 53296 53030 Tension pulleys brushing w/2 850 bearings 53296 TA03R Ball Bearing Set 53291 Tamiya Aluminum Pulley (15T 53288 TA03 REAR ALUMINIUM UPRIGHT SET (Silver, 1 pair) 53287 TA03 Carbon Reinforcing Plate (Tub Chassis Only ?) 53286 Tamiya TA03 Aluminum Pulley 16T 53285 Rear Body Mount Support Plate 53280 Tamiya TA03 Super Low Friction Damper Set 53279 TA03 torque splitter 53278 TA03 Aramid Fiber Reinforced Drive Belt (For TA03F & TA03R only) 53276 TA03 Fluorescent Stabilizers 53275 Tamiya TA03 Aluminum Motor Heat Sink 53269 TA03 Aluminum Motor Mount Plate 53267 TA03 Ball Differential 53266 TA03 Stainless Steel Suspension Shafts 53261 TA03F Pro Carbon Battery Plate Set 53260 TA03 HOLLOW CARBON GEAR SHAFT 53238 M01 Quick Release (J parts are needed) 53200 Tamiya 4WD Front One Way Diff Unit. 53192 Tamiya 4WD/FWD Turnbuckle Upper Arm Set 53172 Universal shaft 53157 Aluminum king pins 50745 TA03R-S Bath Tub Chassis 50744 TA03 L Parts (Body Mounts, Grey) 50719 Tamiya TA03 Bathtub Chassis (Grey) 50718 Tamiya TA03 G Parts (Gear, Black) 50706 Tamiya TA03 Drive Belt 50705 TA03 Knuckle Arm (Black) 50704 Tamiya L Parts (Gear Pro, Cream) 50703 Tamiya TA03 PRO J Parts (Battery Holder) 50702 Tamiya TA03 F Parts (Pulley) 50701 Tamiya D parts (Suspension Arm) 50698 Tamiya A Parts (Gear Case) 50585 Tamiya 4x10mm Step Screw (5pc) 49320 TAMIYA BLUE LIGHTWEIGHT ALUMINUM SERVO STAY 49198 TRF Damper Set - Blue 4pcs 49121 TA03 Stabilizer Stopper Set 49111 Black Rear Gear Box 49110 Black Front Gear Box 49109 TA03 Carbon Reinforcing Plate (Black, Tub Chassis Only ?) 49108 TA03 Carbon Reinforcing Plate (Blue) 49097 Tamiya TA03 Aluminum Front Hub Carrier (Blue, 1 Pair) 49091 Lightweight Drive Shaft (Purple) x2 43780 Tobee Craft Aluminum Servo Stay 30770 Tobee Craft Lightweight Screw Set 957-075 Eagle Model Special Pulley Set (TA03) 001R Paranoia Torque Limiter for Tamiya TA03-R T3-19W Tech Racing Super Universal Wide Tread for Tamiya TA03F (Pro) RS TZ-35GP Cross Aluminum Front Knuckle for Tamiya TA03 (Silver) TT-39 Cross Aluminum Front Hub Carrier for Tamiya TA03 (Silver) TT-55 Cross Aluminum Pulley for Tamiya TA03 P-072 Paranoia Brushing Pipe Set for Tamiya TA03F TT-219 Cross Carbon Chassis Set for Tamiya TA03 T3-B Tech Racing Carbon Chassis Kit for Tamiya TA03 FS/RS
Steering mod:
With this mod you will be able to gain more steering angle.
- Credit to ChavezSA on DRC
This is a steering modification that my friend and I use on our TA03s. It's awesome for drifting, and it really works. It's also really simple to do - 3 steps!! You can do it in about 5-10 minutes, and all it requires is a drill and a dremel or a grinder.
Start off by removing both front knuckles, and both steering arms from your TA03. Also, remove the tie rods from each arm, and set them aside. You'll need to lengthen them later on.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/chavezsa/TA03F/steering_mod_parts.jpg
Shave off or sand away the small bumps that are on the interior edges of the steering arms that bump againt the front gearbox. This is much easier if you have the plastic arms instead of the aluminum ones, but you can shave off the aluminum ones too. It just takes more work. Removing these bumps will give you a couple of millimeters of travel in each direction. Make sure that it's completely smooth on both arms, so both of your steering arms travel the same amount in both directions.
Before: https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/chavezsa/TA03F/steering_arm_before.jpg After: https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/chavezsa/TA03F/steering_arm_after.jpg
Here's a look at the difference between unmodified arms, and shaved arms. Note how much closer the ball end comes to the gearbox.
Before: https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/chavezsa/TA03F/steering_travel_before.jpg
After: https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/chavezsa/TA03F/steering_travel_after.jpg
Drill a small hole on each of your front knuckles. Make sure to use a drill bit that is slightly smaller than your ball end threading. This will ensure that the ball ends will have enough mateial to thread into. You'll be drilling the hole in FRONT of the original hole. If you have regular plastic knuckles, then I recommend using the casting imperfection that is about a millimeter or so in front of the original hole as the drilling point. Make sure you drill the hole as straight as possible. Before: https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/chavezsa/TA03F/knuckle_before.jpg
After: https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/chavezsa/TA03F/knuckle_after.jpg
Screw your steering ball ends in the new holes. If you put your steering assembly back together, you'll notice that the front hubs are toed in much more than before you modified the front knuckles. Simply adjust your tie rod lengths to correct the toe angle of the front wheels.
Viola!!
Now your inside wheel (when turning) will have an extra 3-5 degrees of steering travel. That doesn't sound like much in 1/1, but on a 1/10 TA03, the wheelbase is short enough that it makes an INCREDIBLE difference.
For those of you who are familiar with real cars, D1, Formula D, and drifting in general, this is the equivalent to a very popular tie rod modification made by professional drifters. By subtley changing the steering geometry, you're changing the distance that the tie rods travel when turning, so that they pull the wheel further inward, resulting the wheel turning further outward. The outside wheel won't change too much, because of the way the steering geometry works. But when turning, the inside wheel tracks into the turn at a much steeper angle, allowing for tighter turning and higher angle drifting.
Here's an example of this steering modification at work, on a professional drift car:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/chavezsa/Cars/Ueo_drift.jpg
Note how far the front wheel is turning inward - it's nearly perpendicular to the body of the car. This modification is one of the things that help professional drifters to drift at such steep angles and still hang on to it without spinning. The adaptation of this modification is the same concept, just scaled down to 1/10.
Before we (my friend and I) made the modification to my car, we compared our practically identical TA03s side by side (we had already made the modification to his car before mine), and we noticed that this modification reduced the car's steering radius considerably.
Since I like to drift my TA03, I found this modification to make counter steering much better and more effective. I can hold drifts for almost twice the distance as I did before I made this modification. I only recommend doing this modification only if you trust your skills to not destroy your parts, and if you don't participate in racing events with your TA03, because I'm not sure if a modification like this would be against track rules or not.
Links:
http://www.tamiya.com/english/rc/beginner/chassis.htm http://www.etamiya.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=TA03&osCsid=45f20dcd0935d4364df8d713c8bc0b6b&x=0&y=0 http://www.cubic-works.com/tamiya/parts/tamiyaparts http://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~tobee/English.htm http://www.tamiya.com/english/rc/manuals.htm http://www.drccentral.com/Manuals/TA03FDJPROManual.pdf "
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| | | Invitado Invitado
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Dom 10 Abr 2011, 09:23 | |
| Vaya tela kilian, como te lo has currado, lo muevo a general, un gran aporte para los que tenemos este chasis, con links de piezas y un monton de piezas opcionales, gracias !! |
| | | kilian
Mensajes : 87 Fecha de inscripción : 06/03/2011 Localización : Barcelona
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Dom 10 Abr 2011, 16:56 | |
| - bogy85 escribió:
- Vaya tela kilian, como te lo has currado, lo muevo a general, un gran aporte para los que tenemos este chasis, con links de piezas y un monton de piezas opcionales, gracias !!
De nada! pero la verdad que si empiezas a leertelo hay bastante info | |
| | | POLMAN
Mensajes : 140 Fecha de inscripción : 20/08/2010 Edad : 41 Localización : Badajoz
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Dom 10 Abr 2011, 20:23 | |
| Puuufff la de cosillas que as recopilado le leche Buen trabajo | |
| | | kilian
Mensajes : 87 Fecha de inscripción : 06/03/2011 Localización : Barcelona
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Dom 10 Abr 2011, 21:11 | |
| - POLMAN escribió:
- Puuufff la de cosillas que as recopilado le leche
Buen trabajo Pero no penseis que lo he hecho yo! jejeje, he navegando por internet se me ha abierto una hoja de word y he dicho: la leche! he triunfado! he hecho copia pega :bball: | |
| | | POLMAN
Mensajes : 140 Fecha de inscripción : 20/08/2010 Edad : 41 Localización : Badajoz
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Dom 10 Abr 2011, 21:28 | |
| - kilian escribió:
- POLMAN escribió:
- Puuufff la de cosillas que as recopilado le leche
Buen trabajo Pero no penseis que lo he hecho yo! jejeje, he navegando por internet se me ha abierto una hoja de word y he dicho: la leche! he triunfado! he hecho copia pega :bball: Coño y el ejercicio que as tenido que hacer dando clic al boton del raton jejeje De todas maneras muy buena info. | |
| | | alcoyano
Mensajes : 5 Fecha de inscripción : 15/02/2012 Localización : alcoy
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 12:20 | |
| se de un chaval que vende dos ta03f a 100 euros cada uno con carroceria del subaru impreza y toyota corolla como lo veis de precio? | |
| | | Invitado Invitado
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 13:44 | |
| Muy buena info, me hará falta - alcoyano escribió:
- se de un chaval que vende dos ta03f
a 100 euros cada uno con carroceria del subaru impreza y toyota corolla como lo veis de precio? Creo que están vendidos |
| | | alcoyano
Mensajes : 5 Fecha de inscripción : 15/02/2012 Localización : alcoy
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 14:38 | |
| aun los tiene,hoy lo he visto | |
| | | zampi
Mensajes : 827 Fecha de inscripción : 10/05/2010 Edad : 40 Localización : madrift
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 14:40 | |
| pues no lo digas muy alto por que vuelan, si tienes la oportunidad pillate uno tio, como eso no hay nada | |
| | | alcoyano
Mensajes : 5 Fecha de inscripción : 15/02/2012 Localización : alcoy
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 14:41 | |
| si se puede poner el enlace aqui? no estoy seguro si son. tiene el motor delante eso si que le he visto | |
| | | alcoyano
Mensajes : 5 Fecha de inscripción : 15/02/2012 Localización : alcoy
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 14:49 | |
| te puedo enviar el enlace? | |
| | | zampi
Mensajes : 827 Fecha de inscripción : 10/05/2010 Edad : 40 Localización : madrift
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 15:04 | |
| ya los he visto, y le he mandado un mp | |
| | | Invitado Invitado
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 15:08 | |
| Igual no estamos hablando de la misma persona nose xD pero yo tengo apalabrado los dos, solo me falta pagárselos. |
| | | Invitado Invitado
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 15:42 | |
| Estan vendidos para samu, por mediacion mia, no insistais, que es coleguita y ya estan apalabrados. Xd
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| | | zampi
Mensajes : 827 Fecha de inscripción : 10/05/2010 Edad : 40 Localización : madrift
| Tema: Re: Chasis TA03, preguntas frecuentes, información sobre el chasis Miér 15 Feb 2012, 15:43 | |
| pues lo ha puesto en coches rc
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